Wednesday, 24 June 2026

Recreating an exhaust manifold for my Honda S800 - CAD attempt

At some point, I may need to resume work on my S800, given that this was being described as a "retirement project" - and I'm not officially retired.

My recollection of the exhaust manifold was that it was a bit on the rusty side, so I've been half heartedly looking into the practicalities of fabricating one. 

Pipe bending malarky:

When I was in Canada, I acquired a pipe bender with a view to being able to make the required bends. However, unless you use a mandrel bender to form the bends, they tend to collapse. The tighter the bend, the more they collapse. 

This is what I won in the auction: No formers, just the basic machine:

I figured out what was needed:

And made up 3 different sizes. They need to be over 90 degrees each if you want to do a 90 degree bend, so you can get 3 per round blank. This was quite a job, given their size and the (necessarily) interrupted and heavy cuts.





Here's one of them in  its completed form:


And in action:


Not bad - but without an internal mandrel, there's some collapsing, which is noticeable as an oval shape to the cross section of the pipe.


Where to start again:

Here's the downstream section of the exhaust - the one that mates with the manifold side. This ("4 into 2") section is much worse than the manifold side in terms of rust. This is a photo taken in Canada, around Dec 2012:


But initially, let's look at the upstream / manifold side of the connection flange that joins them:




Here's the flange that mates with a similar flange on the downstream section, using M8 bolts:


These pipes have an OD of around 32mm, although that varies depending where you measure them. In practice, the flange plate is the best,




Let's model that up in Fusion. Note the shallow counterbore that accommodates some funny asbestos(?) filled o-rings that seal the manifold against the head:


Create a 2D drawing:


It's got rather a lot of dimensions but I put those in so I can check the dimensions against the actual manifold itself, eg the bolt holes, port bores etc. If I make one of these, it will be on the Shizuoka, so a dimensioned drawing isn't really needed anyway.

The assembled engine isn't easy to access for measurement purposes but I have a shitty old head that was cannibalised for spares, so I will use that as a space model.



If I've got it right, a 3D printed flange should fit. It's too big to fit in my printer but the manifold is actually in 2 sections so that it fits over the oil pump drive shaft, so this part of the manifold is easy to print.

Looks OK


I wouldn't describe this as a perfect fit. Some of that is due to the rough tolerances found on engine castings. The ports aren't circular in places and this isn't a deliberate feature from what I can see. 





The solution to that is to match the ports to the manifold flange using a die grinder. But that can wait until later.

And as for the mating flange plate:


Initially, I assumed it was largely symmetrical.



But it's clearly not symmetrical. Bollocks. They are all over the place.


I think the answer to this may be to set it up in the Shizuoka and use the Renishaw probe to determine the hole centres and their positions from a chosen datum. Luckily the overall length of the manifold is only about 39cm, so I should be able to drop the knee far enough to probe the flange with its surface horizontal.

Conclusion:
  • Looking at the manifold, it actually looks pretty solid. I'm struggling to convince myself it's worth recreating the entire manifold from scratch. I can't even see any potential to increase the pipe diameters, as the manifold flange barely accommodates the existing (32mm OD) headers. Let's leave that as it is.
  • The downstream section clearly isn't long for this world. I'll probably have a go at replicating it. That will require me to flash one of those flange plates up.
  • The last painful / most accurate way to replicate the flange plate would be to probe it on the Shizuoka. Trying to do this with digital callipers sounds like a hiding to nothing.

The biggest task is probably going to be locating that downstream section. It's clearly in a box somewhere in the workshop but I haven't stumbled across it recently.....

Saturday, 20 June 2026

Cover for the Z axis belt drive - and front drag chain support bracket.

I need to finally devise a cover for the Z axis belt drive. 


And here's the actual installation, including the linear encoder. I don't recall why I modelled the encoder on the back of the ballscrew whereas it's installed at the front. Lost in the mists of time, that one...


From the main machine assembly, here are the critical components. The belt itself isn't modelled, as Fusion doesn't manage that yet. Solidworks and Inventor do but it's not a big deal:


Something like this should work:


Section view:


But with some lugs to secure the cover to the ballscrew bracket:

Looks good.

And fits like a glove. I barely need to use the M6 fixing screws, as it's a nice snug fit over the motor bracket.


While I'm in Fusion and running the printer, here's a bracket for supporting the front drag chain:


Wow, that turned out well. In fact I will print out another one, so there are 2 of them supporting the lower section.

I think we can say the front drag chain is done now.

Friday, 19 June 2026

Assembling the carriage (front) drag chain and finalising the sensor wiring

Due to the way the carriage and cross slide assembly are constructed, there's no sensible means of getting the front mounted linear encoder and limit switches for the Z axis passed over to the rear, so that they can use the drag chain I've just implemented at the rear of the machine.

It only has to convey the 3 small signal cables, so the size of the drag chain is mainly dictated by the requirement to be large enough for robustness. Igus don't do anything that looks appropriate and certainly nothing that would be described as "fully enclosed".

This Chinesium drag chain from Amazon looks like a possibility, so I got myself a length of it and went from there.


I need to make u some brackets to mount the ends on the machine. Here's what we have currently:


This is the read head for the linear encoder:


Yes, those are threaded M4. Very handy.


Something like this should work for the moving end. This would attach to the moving head of the encoder using those 4 spare M4 threaded holes.




And perhaps something like this for the fixed end, which would attach to the bracket that supports the Z axis ballscrew and servo motor assembly.



Ah, but this would force the lower section of the chain to sit below the lowest reach of the bracket due to the bend radius, so a slight adjustment is required. 



With some thought and refinement, I can provide a route for the cables to emerge without needing to thread the connectors




Looks good:



Clear out the M4 threads:


And wop it op. I should provide a support under the lower section but otherwise it looks like a success from here. Obvs I could have terminated the chain just under where the current fold is but I'd then have needed to either provide a conduit for it or make another hole through the chip tray.


The various signals cables (limit switches, encoder read head, servo motor etc) are all different lengths - some too short, others too long. So this is the time to make them all the same length. Messy and slow but it needs to be done.

Combined X and Z axis limit switches:




Z axis limit switches:




Z axis encoder read head:


It's a good thing I took photos of the wiring before chopping off the connections and extending them. When printed out on the new Kyocera printer, the green and blue wires come out the same (blue) colour. Some manual notation is required! Here's the printed copy held up against the same image on the screen.

Almost done now. Then mount the cabinet on the machine and check to see if my wiring modifications were error free. And get the machine running again.....

Recreating an exhaust manifold for my Honda S800 - CAD attempt

At some point, I may need to resume work on my S800, given that this was being described as a "retirement project" - and I'm n...