Saturday, 1 January 2022

Fettling the saddle gib strips

As noticed previously, the saddle has 2 sets of gibs - one at the rear and one (pair) at the front. The rear gib has a means of adjustment to take up any vertical wear but bizarrely the front gibs don't offer any means of doing so. Clearly the front gibs are not considered to be anything more than a means of preventing the saddle being lifted, while the rear gibs are considered critical to the correct function.

Presumably the rear gibs are needed when the rear toolpost is used with the tool inverted, to control the height of the tool relative to the spindle. In the front position, the tool loads will hold the saddle against the vee way. 

Although the saddle vertical slop may not have been considered critical by Colchester when the machine was designed, I plan to reduce it back to something closer to how I suspect it was shipped. Besides, I've already seen how an off-centre load on the saddle can result in the saddle being lifted as a result of the moment acting on the vee ways. Although moving the ballscrew to the front of the machine (where the original leadscrew was) should have eliminated that problem, I want to get this machine set up accurately while it is in bits.

Let's do some measurements to see how much slop there is with the current setup:

Short gib strip slop at headstock end:


Looks like about 150um


Mid travel



Similar 150um


At tailstock end:



Very similar - 150um or so


Now let's measure the slop in the long gib strip.

Headstock end:



Looks like around 250um (9.25mm)


Middle of travel:



Around 200um?


At tailstock end:


Something like 150um?


Well?

Funny(?) that the slop due to the short gib seems fairly constant along the travel, yet the long gib seems to induce slop that varies between 150 and 250um, with the bigger slop where the saddle is closest to the head - that's probably what you'd expect really. But I can't understand why the slop due to the short gib seems fairly consistent over the whole extent of saddle movement.

Butchering time:

The short gib seems to allow around 150um slop. The gib piece is non adjustable and measures 20.7mm or so. I will reduce that slightly by grinding a bit off the bottom surface on the belt sander wit the fine (400 grit) belt.


One step at a time. I'll see how this butchery of the short gib works out, then figure out what to do with the long gib....

Managed to remove around 120um from the short gib, bringing the thickness down to a fairly consistent 20.6mm or so. 

Then refitted it and measured the resulting slop. How does that shape up? At the tailstock end I'm seeing almost no measurable slop - perhaps 5um at most, yet no binding. Sounds as if I managed to hit the spot there. And at the headstock end, I can measure a smidgen over 20um - perhaps we can call that 25um. Happy with that.



TBH, I could probably get away with leaving the long gib as it is but as I'm here, it would seem rude not to finish the job properly.

Here's the long gib before being butchered. Given the slop seen above, I'd imagine taking perhaps 150um off the thickness:


The long gib slop measures 170-250um, depending where on the travel you measure it. I'll have a go at removing 160um and see where that gets me. So a final thickness of just over 21mm sounds possible.As long as I don't fuck up and take too much off (and cause the saddle to bind), it can only help....

...which is exactly what happened of course. I left the job to The Stupid Fat Bloke who wasted no time reducing the thickness of the gib to 21.0mm. Upon refitting, the saddle was locked solid, of course. No problem - out with the shimstock and scissors and much careful buggerage for an hour or so. 

Now both gibs will allow the saddle to reach the tailstock end without binding. And at the headstock end, I'm seeing around 20um slop. That's an order of magnitude better than it was, so I'll leave it there and focus on getting the rear (adjustable!) gib set up.

Rear gib adjustment:

Hmm. Before I can get into the gib adjustment, I need to remove all the gubbins from the rear of the machine. All that stuff has to come off anyway, so there's no time like the present.




Ballscrew, ballnut and yoke assembly.


Finally, the motor, pulley, ballscrew and ballnut yoke bolted into place. That had to be done before I could be certain no further work was needed on the front bracket. I don't want to have to keep reassembling and readjusting the front and rear gibs.


Finally, I'm ready to clean up and fit the rear gib. It's a 2 piece assembly. One part is bolted firmly to the underside of the saddle and the other (moving) part is bolted to that. Once the adjustment has been made, the 3 fasteners are tightened up.

Ran a tap through the adjuster holes (1/4-20 threads) to free up the movement, then cleaned up the surfaces. I'm not anal enough to feel the need to completely strip the paint off. Besides, it won't even be visible.



Nothing much to see beyond this. Took a fair bit of buggerage to adjust the 3 screws to minimise any vertical slop while avoiding the saddle binding anywhere on the bed.

Right. That's the various gibs set up. Now let's start to reassemble the drives...

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